Wikitech-l September 2003

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Mirroring (was Re: Fundraising)
by Lars Aronsson 12 Oct '03

12 Oct '03

Andre Engels wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tim Starling wrote: > > logged-in users, that way most edits go to a web server which is close > > to the master DB. > > Would it not be better to keep the mirrors read-only, and have them redirect > to the master for write-access? To have writing in several places causes > significant overhead in avoiding edit conflicts and such. There is a lot of hypothesis and discussion here. Have you considered that there are some 40-60 page views for every single edit? What about using some real statistics instead of guessing? (Just my hypothesis.) Plus the tech discussion should be on wikitech-l, not wikipedia-l. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics reports 40 views per edit, as an average since July 2002. More recently, the English Wikipedia has received: Month Edits per month Page views views/edit --------- --------------- ---------- ---------- July, 2003 212K 9.9M 46 Aug, 2003 248K 13.0M 52 Sept 1-24, 2003 227K 13.9M 61 As a comparison, the fast response time susning.nu wiki features 100 page views per edit. A faster Wikipedia would receive more page views, probably 30M per month. The number of edits per month would also increase, but perhaps not as much. The Wikipedia statistics are spread out over too many places, and none of these pages are wiki-editable, so I cannot add cross-reference links. - Webalizer graphs, http://www.wikipedia.org/stats/ - Article count, http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics - Erik Zachte's edit count, http://www.wikipedia.org/wikistats/ older version at http://members.chello.nl/epzachte/Wikipedia/Statistics/EN/Sitemap.htm -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se/

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RE: [Wikitech-l] Server upgrade status needed in order todistributepress release
by Poor, Edmund W 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Erik, - re: massive fundraising campaign. Well, I'd be willing to donate a few hundred dollars. Where do I send it? I originally applied to become a "Developer" because I hoped I might be able to do something to speed up the response time. Unfortunately, I haven't made the effort to wade through all the source code - and last time I checked, there weren't any Requirements Document or Architectural Design Document. I've had quite a bit of experience with client-server programming, and I've managed to get more speed out of various systems. It's often a matter of using a profiling tool to identify bottlenecks. How many hits an hour do we get during primetime? Ed Poor

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Server upgrade status needed in order to distribute press release
by Daniel Mayer 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

When are the servers going to be upgraded? This is holding up distribution of the press release (we've already hit the 300,000 figure) since the downtime associated with the upgrade is not something we want to present potential news users or donators to. It would also be nice for them to have responsive page load times. Either way I would still like to delay the English press release distribution one week after non-English distribution. -- mav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Special:Booksources
by Nikola Smolenski 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

I wanted to add search of National library of Serbia (http://www.nbs.bg.ac.yu) to Special:Booksources, but it needs unique ID for every search. I could make a PHP script that would go around this, would it be included in Wikipedia?

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a suggestion for a new option
by Tomos at Wikipedia 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

I am posting this here (as opposed to sourceforge) since this idea needs some discussion, etc. I often think that viewing the latest version of the page after just editing it is not necessary. When I press "Save" button, all I need is the message that "data is now saved," not the whole article/ page. So it would be nice to have that option in one way or another. It could be either a user option or two save buttons with the edit box. Or "data is now saved" is the default, and there is a link to the page just edited. (The last option is similar to the way login proceeds. You get a link to the previously visited page after logging in successfully.) And I am speculating that if the page is not displayed after saving, it would save some server load. Even if I am wrong here, I don't have to wait for a page to load. So I can save some time. Tomos _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa

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No numbers for single letter headings
by Chris Seaton 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

I have enabled numbered headings but I think this should be bypassed when the heading is just a single letter (used quite a lot in alphabetical lists) as it looks quite strange. See http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases if you have headers enabled to see what I mean. Actually, perhaps it would be better to put a colon between the number and header. "6: F" instead of "6 F", which looks like a school class name. Thoughts? -- Chris Seaton chris(a)chrisseaton.com http://www.chrisseaton.com/

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language-fr
by tarquin 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Could someone put http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia:LanguageFr.php into CVS and then onto the server? Sorry, I'm having major CVS headache :(

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CVS access
by Luc Van Oostenryck 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Is it possible that I get CVS access? I intent to use it only to upload languageFR.php Thanks. -- Looxix

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RE: [Wikitech-l] Server upgrade status needed in order to distributepress release
by Poor, Edmund W 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Mav asked, "When are the servers going to be upgraded?" To which I say: Yeah, I just failed to recruit a published author last month, because response time was so slow that she said, "I think that website is down." Any way of keeping response time under 10 seconds consistently? Ed Poor

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RE: [Wikitech-l] RE: List Admin's of Wikitech-l
by Poor, Edmund W 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

If handling the occasional "unsubscribed e-mail" is the hardest chore, then *yawn* this ought to be about as easy as my wikien-l admin job. Ed Poor

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