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1From what I could gather (I might be wrong), SE cannot both resume publishing the dumps and restrict access to them at the same time. Therefore, if publishing the dumps is a sine qua non condition for ending the strike... then the strike will never end.Frédéric Hamidi– Frédéric Hamidi2023-06-12 13:53:15 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 13:53
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1@FrédéricHamidi guess they can restrict access by requiring logging in, require certain rep, etc. They don't care how realistic it is, or not.user152859– user1528592023-06-12 14:04:19 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 14:04
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17@Script47 Next up: Stack Overflow premium accounts. Free access to the data dump and bonus reputation points! (The worst part is, I can see them actually doing that... :-S )S.L. Barth is on codidact.com– S.L. Barth is on codidact.com2023-06-12 14:07:00 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 14:07
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6@Sha, if they do not publish dumps and they require us to subscribe to something in order to generate them ourselves, then your solution could work... but I believe that as soon as a dump is published somewhere, the license that applies to its content won't allow SE to restrict access in any way.Frédéric Hamidi– Frédéric Hamidi2023-06-12 14:07:25 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 14:07
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6@S.L.Barth I see you already heard about the monthly subscription. Access to the data dump, weekly SE blog newsletter, and 100rep/day for 30 days. And only on your first sub, free 10 summons with SSR hat guaranteedꓢPArcheon– ꓢPArcheon2023-06-12 14:41:17 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 14:41
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12@FrédéricHamidi that is why the "we are trying to find a way to regulate access" probably actually means "we are trying to find some borderline legal scam to be able to copyright the dump and/or to include a DRM on it"ꓢPArcheon– ꓢPArcheon2023-06-12 14:46:08 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 14:46
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2@SPArcheon They could for example only upload the questions and keep the answers for premium access. I somehow share the thinking of this answer. I don't think this can end well. In the next weeks SO will at most offer minimal compromises if at all. If they acknowledge the strike it will from a position of superiority. In the worst, worst case they will pull an Elon Musk and fire moderators until morale improves.NoDataDumpNoContribution– NoDataDumpNoContribution2023-06-12 16:59:38 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 16:59
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14@Trilarion Right now, they are clearly "sitting out" on the issue - wait until the community vents out before throwing a bone (maybe even planned in advance: say something, get users mad, and then make a "better than nothing" change that you already planned that they will agree on just to move forward). Furthermore, next time most user will have "reset" their memory and take every new issue as if there wasn't a quite negative background already.ꓢPArcheon– ꓢPArcheon2023-06-12 17:36:02 +00:00Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 17:36
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1@S.L. Barth: Quora already has that. Prior to that, even sweatshop moderators became too expensive and were replaced by moderation bots of unspecified IQ (for example, they didn't know the difference between the conspiracy-ridden "5G" and the entirely innocent frequency "5 GHz" (used by Wi-Fi). It was very clear from context what it should be). The company may repeat ExpertsExchange's mistakes.This_is_NOT_a_forum– This_is_NOT_a_forum2023-06-13 17:35:12 +00:00Commented Jun 13, 2023 at 17:35
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2Related: How will Stack Overflow succeed where The Hyphen Site didn't? - "Stack Overflow is similar in concept to The Hyphen Site, but I'd hate to see Stack Overflow follow in The Hyphen Site's footsteps. How will Stack Overflow succeed where The Hyphen Site didn't? ... Since then, they also ceased to be a convenient resource because of the requirement to register to see answers ... No one at my workplace treats it as a valuable site." (my emphasis)This_is_NOT_a_forum– This_is_NOT_a_forum2023-06-13 17:36:54 +00:00Commented Jun 13, 2023 at 17:36
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1And Stack Overflow taking down the evil Hyphen Site and What does this graph tell you about Stack Overflow's effect on the hyphen-site? (look at that graph... Continuation of the graph.)This_is_NOT_a_forum– This_is_NOT_a_forum2023-06-13 17:58:31 +00:00Commented Jun 13, 2023 at 17:58
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2This is the first I've heard of the "the hyphen site" epithet. Amusing.Karl Knechtel– Karl Knechtel2023-07-07 01:03:40 +00:00Commented Jul 7, 2023 at 1:03
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