Still DNA-8899 is not fixed. :-(

A very sad news for spanish and portuguese users (and even more?)

Thanks. Downloaded and testing.

Thanks for delivering Opera Dev 17 baby today !

We'll see that it grows beautifully.

http://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/17.0.1224.1/win/Opera_Developer_17.0.1224.1_Setup.exe

And still no Linux builds...

Blazej Kazmierczak, thanks! you made my day... though, I can't see anything for bookmarks yet and if I'm correct you mentioned that we may see it in 017.

I'm still waiting for grouping tabs /tab stacking/ (maybe 1 windows process for 1 group/stack if possible?) and then this browser can be my default/testing one

I hope I get to see the tab-cycler in O17

Installing https://addons.opera.com/en/themes/details/ibis-inspire-3/ crashes Opera. Themes that only change the wallpaper work.

Thank you Blazej, already testing it

thx

Thanks for the dev stream
But you really should mention why bookmarks are not in this build. I can already see and hear the masses of people coming who will spam the comments with questions about it

HiDPI Support (Windows) was enabled by default on my end, so I left it that way.
Win 7.1 64 bit.

The overlay menu which controls the search engines can't be closed and freezes every internal opera page that you open (after clicking on a search engine entries in the menu)

(OSX 10.8.4)

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

Thanks for the dev stream
But you really should mention why bookmarks are not in this build. I can already see and hear the masses of people coming who will spam the comments with questions about it

in opera:flags you can see "quick access bar", that's where bookmarks are hidden for now. Good backend is already made, but UI is under construction still. First phase will be a bar, later something more advanced.

I can only drag a pinned tab to the end of the tablist, not any other place.
If I want to move it, I need to move the other (normal) tabs instead.

Also Ctrl+tab / Ctrl+q seems to be dead again.

Slowly.. SLOWLY Opera comes back
The browser now develops in the right direction.
I hope until version 20, tab-stacking will have its comeback.

Originally posted by m910q:

I can only drag a pinned tab to the end of the tablist, not any other place.
If I want to move it, I need to move the other (normal) tabs instead.

Pinned tabs can only be at the beginning of the tab list, normal only at the end (after pinned tabs). There is a bug when you have a single pinned tab, this bug has been fixed internally. I suspect that's the bug you're seeing.

You just made my day!

Petter Nilsen:
I suspected that, no problem then

Is there a way to remove my search engines? I can't find a remove/delete button in the interface.

" improved tabs handling: vertical tabs"

Fantastic. Thats a good 80% of whats holding me back from switching. I love my vertical tabs
---
One general query; Is Opera just using the webkit/blink rendering engine "as is" now? Or will Opera feed some improvements back into it?

I am just curious. Opera used to do some stuff rendering-wise Chrome couldn't. Animated PNGs, for example. It would be nice if that returned.
(honestly, I don't understand why the web still use's GIFs ).

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

in opera:flags you can see "quick access bar", that's where bookmarks are hidden for now. Good backend is already made, but UI is under construction still. First phase will be a bar, later something more advanced.

Thanks for information. Maybe put it in the blog post too
Another point: Default search settings should be editable/deletable too. I dont like bing and yahoo and would like to have the german wikipedia at 'w', not the english one (but browser language should still be english).

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

Thanks for the dev stream
But you really should mention why bookmarks are not in this build. I can already see and hear the masses of people coming who will spam the comments with questions about it

in opera:flags you can see "quick access bar", that's where bookmarks are hidden for now. Good backend is already made, but UI is under construction still. First phase will be a bar, later something more advanced.

I have no problems with bookmarks (although I already got used to Speed Dial + Stash), as I understand lots of people need it, but please, please, please, make it possible to disable bookmarks (at least, make it possible to hide the bookmarks quick access bar).

I don't know about the others, but as someone who has no intent of using bookmarks, I don't want a bar taking unnecessary space of my screen...

Thank you!!!

Yay for lazy session loading!
However Quick Access Bar has slightly diffrent color:
http://imgur.com/GbbomFg
Also when pinning tab u can see that text of the tab u want to pin and other tab is mixing while the tab fly to the left

Win 8.1 Pro Preview 64-bit

I'm starting to be confident with some good features coming back. But no news yet about Notes and M2/RSS and these are the main features for me.

At least we have a small roadmap to follow

Originally posted by Thael32:

However Quick Access Bar is not working

That's why it wasn't mentioned it in the blog post and why it is disabled by default.

I hope there'll be an option to use bookmarks as button and drop-down list, like a "star" in 12.X.

Originally posted by nom4d3br:

I'm starting to be confident with some good features coming back. But no news yet about Notes and M2/RSS and these are the main features for me.

At least we have a small roadmap to follow

+1.

Originally posted by sebo:

Originally posted by Thael32:

However Quick Access Bar is not working

That's why it wasn't mentioned it in the blog post and why it is disabled by default.

Yes I read the Blazej'z post later so I edited mine post to prevent more confusion Well I already cant wait for O17 stable Good work!

Hey guys!

Thanks for the update and the informations.
Thant sound great all in all.
I must admit, I was one of those who were against O15 and beyond. But this step (first O16 and now O17 with future features) let me think about it. I see another shiny future of Opera, if you guys realy get the core-featrues back to us.

Thanks!

IT

Originally posted by rafaeljvieira:

I don't know about the others, but as someone who has no intent of using bookmarks, I don't want a bar taking unnecessary space of my screen...

As someone who does use bookmarks I don't want a bar taking unnecessary space of my screen neither.

A button on the main toolbar is my wish. Exactly like I have it in 12.16.

https://files.myopera.com/Luxor/Pics/bookmarkbutton.png -

Anyway to import Profile data from Opera Next to Opera Dev builds?
Would be really helpful in testing.

"HiDPI Support (Windows) - for the ones running in hi-resolution on small screens, we are delivering you better pixels experience."

Sounds interesting, can you give an example at which resolution this better pixel experience starts? For example I'm using an old, but good 17" TFT monitor with 1280x1024 pixels which is the reason why I have to zoom most web pages to different scales.

Originally posted by VarunM:

Anyway to import Profile data from Opera Next to Opera Dev builds?
Would be really helpful in testing.

I have not tested this, but I think that you can just copy the appsettings folder from %APPDATA%\Opera Software\

I don't know the location on Macs.

right click > Edit Site Preferences > Cookies (delete-edit) ?

Originally posted by bluezzbastardzz:

"HiDPI Support (Windows) - for the ones running in hi-resolution on small screens, we are delivering you better pixels experience."

Sounds interesting, can you give an example at which resolution this better pixel experience starts? For example I'm using an old, but good 17" TFT monitor with 1280x1024 pixels which is the reason why I have to zoom most web pages to different scales.

Try setting Windows to 125% or similar. You can also set a fixed zoom factor for all pages. HiDPI is still in progress, though.

YES! Thank you! I'll be downloading this in a few minutes.

Yay! Thank you.

A request from me: could you bring back the default down-up gesture to duplicate current tab? I use it quite often with back gesture to go back in a new tab.

Thanks for the regular Updates...

Here are my persisting problems :

1. Shift clicking on a link opens a New Window and not a New Tab... this is really Frustrating.

2. Even tough Opera closes the popups (or it claims it does at the end of address bar) a new window still opens (could be blank, could be not...) and we all know that New Windows openning out of nowhere are NEVER Good ! the pop up should be obliterated not to open in a new window...

here's an example address : http://194.71.107.80
click anywhere on the screen for the popup to Pop !

3. the new startup options are good and they would be better if we could have the option to Open Stash+Discover alongside the Last Opened Tabs... I just want to check Stash and Discover first before starting my work in the browser...

4. it's a good thing you gave us the option to Disable or enable tab bar's top spacing... I for one didn't want to remove that little extra space... it gave me the option to bring back focus to the Browser by clicking there without changing the current tab ...

5. can you reconsider implementing Panel & Notes ? they really were a differentiating factor between Opera and other browsers... especially Notes... it gave researchers a lot of opportunities while browsing loads of pages...

6. the STOP Gesture (RMB + Upward) was really useful for me and I'm still wondering why you removed it... will it be back ?

7. PANEL for Bookmarks ! any other way (Quick Access Bar, new Tab, new Window, a little Extension button on the upright corner of screen) and it will lose the functionality it had with panels...

8. Still not giving us the option to remove some items if we want to : The Big Google Search Bar in Speed Dial, The Default Search Engines, ...

9. Suggestion : Support RSS by Discover... this way users have the options to read their own news feeds (in one section) and the other news (in another Discover section)

Thanks for the Hard work guys !

"Recently closed" does not show any closed tabs.
Opera crashes when clicked on 'clear this setting' on address bar location icon. (BTW, why it should display itself on the address bar when it's already diabled???).
Text (web address) in address bar seems to be placed downward and not in centre.

Now what I want...

Home button, UI customization, option to clear all data on exit.


W8.1 Ent pre x64 USB install, no addons.

Originally posted by m910q:

Is there a way to remove my search engines? I can't find a remove/delete button in the interface.

Yes, your custom search engines can be removed. Open search engines manager -> hover mouse pointer over custom search engine, there should be X button on the right of it.

how to add themes? i can not find that option

Originally posted by gluidori4e:

how to add themes? i can not find that option

They are disabled by default. Go to opera://flags, enable them, restart the browser and then you can go to addons.opera.com and download/install themes. It is not yet finished though, expect some bugs and (even) crashes. They are accessible from O menu -> Themes.

Originally posted by gluidori4e:

how to add themes? i can not find that option

Enable it in opera:flags first, then you'll see it on the Themes page. It's disabled by default until we've happy with its stability etc.

I don't understand why you treat "rocker gestures" different from normal mouse gestures. I mean, If I disable the mouse gestures why do the "rockers" still work??

Is this the first time you all have talked about what will be coming soon and eventually? Because I gotta tell you it makes me happy that we finally get to see what's being worked on and what's being brought back

Now only if there was a Linux version that I could play with

and panels, I need panels

Originally posted by mmitek:

Yes, your custom search engines can be removed. Open search engines manager -> hover mouse pointer over custom search engine, there should be X button on the right of it.

Not for me.
Proof: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/SearchEngineHover.PNG

Will we get a Linux version by the end of the year?(even in next or dev?)
Will we get at least some kind of updates for old opera 12?Something like 12.17?

Will we have an integrated torrent client like before?

Originally posted by m910q:

Originally posted by mmitek:

Yes, your custom search engines can be removed. Open search engines manager -> hover mouse pointer over custom search engine, there should be X button on the right of it.

Not for me.
Proof: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/SearchEngineHover.PNG

That's not a custom search engine, it looks like one of the default engines.

Originally posted by m910q:

Originally posted by mmitek:

Yes, your custom search engines can be removed. Open search engines manager -> hover mouse pointer over custom search engine, there should be X button on the right of it.

Not for me.
Proof: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1098960/o/SearchEngineHover.PNG

I believe Amazon is not a custom search engine of yours, but instead a default search engine which cannot be removed?