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Some apps broke but the only updates were for a newer OS than the one I had (purposely) stayed on. So had to upgrade my OS X just to get paid for apps back. I'm not quick to call things a firing offense but this comes close.
Phone/tablet operating systems are so sh*t they lack all of the functionality that people need, by people i mean me and anybosy who ever wants to write usefull script/play online games/have any fun at all on a tablet
HOW DARE YOU! The apple wach is the most important invention of the 21sr century and should be treated as such. In all seriousness i hate every one of the new 'consumer' apple Products like the wach and iphone 6, they are loosing ground in the developer market and the only hot air that is still keeping their hotair balloon in the air is the utter faith of people with too much money that they are buying the very best in the market.
Remember it's not Apple's app - they're just acting as a storefront for 3rd party developers. Unfortunately Apple don't give developers lists of customers so developers don't know who may have been effected. If you're having problems with Family Tree Maker contact the developer of that product as they may be able to help you: http://familytreemaker.com
Whilst re-booting or re-downloading appears to work for many Apps, it is NOT working for Apple's premium app for Family Tree Maker 3. There is a huge furore on Ancestry as a result. People have a huge amount of time and work invested in the contents of their Trees. When I tried to open the application yesterday, there was a 'requirement to log-in' message followed by an error/damage message as identified by Paul Haddad. I have rebooted, and deleted and re-installed the App 5 times yesterday and today, and I STILL have the problem. In addition, frustratingly, Apple have not really been acknowledging that there is a problem with the App. This morning I was told they were taking their App Servers down for repair, so my newest download had probably been damaged by that. Really? If the problem is more fundamental, why do they not say so, and admit that a fix might take time. I am exhausted, and utterly distraught.
Certificates are used more widely than for just DRM. The whole "trusting applications from a recognised source" thing (provided by both iOS and Android in their app stores) requires the use of certificates to be possible.
Well there are 11 comments on that thread from 9 users. A couple of them are saying they don't have a problem and a couple are saying they had a small problem that is now solved.
It's a fuck-up of course, and Apple should have done better, but it's not really comparable to MS problems I've been having for the last couple of months.
Having read the comments on AppleInsider, it is definitely more than an minor annoyance for some users.
"I got the "different computer" notification from the App Store when opening Photoshop Elements 9 yesterday. Following that the application simply would not open, but I didn't receive any "certificate expired" notifications.
So I reinstalled and now every time I attempt to reopen it goes through the "verifying" process and nothing else. The app still won't open in any form."
"I have rebooted. I have reinstalled. Now, sometimes I get the verification window, sometimes not. Sometimes it just plainly doesn't launch or quit immediately, fast enough to not even see the icon appear in the dock.
What can I do now? I can't take a day off because of that stupid error... grr"
"Rebooting has NOT fixed this issue. I've rebooted 6 times, deleted, re-downloaded and re-installed the apps and still no joy."
Remember back in the 90s where Microsoft started making blunder after blunder? Apple is the new Microsoft. They can't do anything right these days and are coasting on their previous reputation.
If they don't they aren't safe. This isn't Drm. The cert validates that the developer is a legit developer and is who becaus he is, and the application bundle hasht been tempered with since it was created.
It's nothing to do with DRM, it's a way of authenticating applications and proving they haven't been altered. Certificates are used everywhere, including in open source applications.
It is however basic incompetence not to renew a certificate before it expires.
Apple user anger as Mac apps break due to security certificate lapse
Every week seems to bring another blemish on the once shiny Apple. Even the Guardian are now covering their "reputation" by publishing something almost, but not quite, reflecting the reality surrounding this 'emperor's clothes' behemoth.
As an Apple user I was mildly confused rather than angry. It took me less than minute to sort it out. Even the Tweets you highlight would be better described as 'a little bit irritated'.
Human error. Now wait for a corrupted IOS update or patch. Blow a few hundred million out of the water. Lessons will, no doubt, be learned. The joke is that people think their data is safe.
Apple are too interested in making toys like the watch and are forgetting the customers that bought their professional technology in the first place that ensured their success.
Apple user anger as Mac apps break due to security certificate lapse
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Meanwhile my PC programs are running flawlessly for the last 5 year's since I've owned my current PC.
Some apps broke but the only updates were for a newer OS than the one I had (purposely) stayed on. So had to upgrade my OS X just to get paid for apps back. I'm not quick to call things a firing offense but this comes close.
Phone/tablet operating systems are so sh*t they lack all of the functionality that people need, by people i mean me and anybosy who ever wants to write usefull script/play online games/have any fun at all on a tablet
HOW DARE YOU!
The apple wach is the most important invention of the 21sr century and should be treated as such.
In all seriousness i hate every one of the new 'consumer' apple
Products like the wach and iphone 6, they are loosing ground in the developer market and the only hot air that is still keeping their hotair balloon in the air is the utter faith of people with too much money that they are buying the very best in the market.
Much ado about nothing. There's no mention of the problem affecting the mission-critical systems that run on the Mac.
Remember it's not Apple's app - they're just acting as a storefront for 3rd party developers. Unfortunately Apple don't give developers lists of customers so developers don't know who may have been effected. If you're having problems with Family Tree Maker contact the developer of that product as they may be able to help you: http://familytreemaker.com
Microsoft OSs support thousands of HW variations whereas Apple's OSs do not.
Considering the numerous additional complications of Microsoft's offerings they do a pretty good job compared to Apple.
Whilst re-booting or re-downloading appears to work for many Apps, it is NOT working for Apple's premium app for Family Tree Maker 3. There is a huge furore on Ancestry as a result. People have a huge amount of time and work invested in the contents of their Trees.
When I tried to open the application yesterday, there was a 'requirement to log-in' message followed by an error/damage message as identified by Paul Haddad. I have rebooted, and deleted and re-installed the App 5 times yesterday and today, and I STILL have the problem.
In addition, frustratingly, Apple have not really been acknowledging that there is a problem with the App. This morning I was told they were taking their App Servers down for repair, so my newest download had probably been damaged by that. Really?
If the problem is more fundamental, why do they not say so, and admit that a fix might take time.
I am exhausted, and utterly distraught.
Shut up and take my money!
IOS 9.1 breaks Snow Leopard.
So what, that is how the forced upgrade cycle works. Maybe there is a real reason for this supposed error!
Certificates are used more widely than for just DRM. The whole "trusting applications from a recognised source" thing (provided by both iOS and Android in their app stores) requires the use of certificates to be possible.
Well there are 11 comments on that thread from 9 users. A couple of them are saying they don't have a problem and a couple are saying they had a small problem that is now solved.
It's a fuck-up of course, and Apple should have done better, but it's not really comparable to MS problems I've been having for the last couple of months.
Having read the comments on AppleInsider, it is definitely more than an minor annoyance for some users.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/190103/certificate-problems-causing-app-authentication-errors-for-some-mac-app-store-users
Yes, thats called DRM. The signing process blocks the use of the app/music/movie if it doesnt validate you.
Three little letters, DRM.
Welcome to what happens when you rely on it when the vendor cocks up.
It *absolutely* is DRM.
Here's one of the errors that popped up as a result of this cert problem:
https://twitter.com/ccMick/status/664758394084020224
Yeah.. your apps are tied to your computer. That's DRM.
Remember back in the 90s where Microsoft started making blunder after blunder? Apple is the new Microsoft. They can't do anything right these days and are coasting on their previous reputation.
"Apple did not respond to request for comment."
Still the world's most arrogant company.
If they don't they aren't safe. This isn't Drm. The cert validates that the developer is a legit developer and is who becaus he is, and the application bundle hasht been tempered with since it was created.
It's generally top notch.
"...their professional technology..."
That is a joke. Right?
And additionally it is a way of preventing users from using pirated software, so rightx has a valid point.
Yes open source apps might use certificates but i am not aware of any open source OS that will prevent you from choosing to download apps.
Didn't the diehards get the memo from Steve, funnelled through Timmy?
Apple have a super big tablet now, and according to Cook, no one needs a PC any more (erm... unless iOS updates fuck it up, then you will need a PC)
It's nothing to do with DRM, it's a way of authenticating applications and proving they haven't been altered. Certificates are used everywhere, including in open source applications.
It is however basic incompetence not to renew a certificate before it expires.
Apple should buy a calendar.
Something similar happened a while back...
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/25/apple-software-update-invalid/
Every week seems to bring another blemish on the once shiny Apple. Even the Guardian are now covering their "reputation" by publishing something almost, but not quite, reflecting the reality surrounding this 'emperor's clothes' behemoth.
As an Apple user I was mildly confused rather than angry. It took me less than minute to sort it out.
Even the Tweets you highlight would be better described as 'a little bit irritated'.
"it just works"
Human error. Now wait for a corrupted IOS update or patch. Blow a few hundred million out of the water. Lessons will, no doubt, be learned. The joke is that people think their data is safe.
Apple are too interested in making toys like the watch and are forgetting the customers that bought their professional technology in the first place that ensured their success.
Pshaw. Just buy a new one. It's what Apple want you to do and what users crave anyway.
Another shining example of why DRM should be avoided by consumers wherever possible