Timeline for Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio
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| Jan 3, 2020 at 3:48 | comment | added | New Alexandria | What none one seems to know or say is that the SO culture is protective of the kind of lashing out that happened against Monica. If the company did anything to censure the employee, even a paid leave to 'recharge', it would have a chilling effect internally, which would impact their hiring initiatives. The company is better on their ease of culture/HR over the sentiment of their user base. | |
| Dec 29, 2019 at 8:50 | comment | added | cs95 is giving SE a 2nd chance | First two strongly apply | |
| Dec 27, 2019 at 9:00 | comment | added | Rob Grant | @ByBw I imagine she got some reasonable consideration out of the agreement. Hopefully millions of considerations. | |
| Dec 27, 2019 at 5:17 | comment | added | SRM | @MartinTournoij That's another valid possibility. | |
| Dec 27, 2019 at 3:03 | comment | added | Martin Tournoij | I know from personal experience that these kind of conflicts are very emotionally draining and stressful @SRM. At some point you need to make a choice and settle with a "good enough" solution – rather than the "fair" one – so you can move on with your life. | |
| Dec 26, 2019 at 5:35 | comment | added | SRM | @ByBw She could have been under threat of a countersuit or other arm twisting. There are lots of avenues that make it expensive for individuals to sue corporations. Even if the legal costs are made public, we won't know if that's just because she didn't expend the money because she realized it would be futile. Overall, this statement just tells the public that the two parties have decided to go separate ways and we will never know the details of that separation. It admits no wrongdoing on either side, and does nothing to rectify the situation. It just says it is over. | |
| Dec 24, 2019 at 7:30 | comment | added | Von Huffman | @ChatterOne Submit to what? She was the one suing, and the one that signed the agreement and NDA. She was the one that brought lawyers, and started a fundraiser. Seems that she will make the legal costs public, so we'll know if it was a case of "can't afford it" soon enough. | |
| Dec 24, 2019 at 7:10 | comment | added | ChatterOne | @ByBw That is one way to look at it, true. Another way is that she submitted to the stronger power (read: expensive lawyers) to avoid more trouble. That is not the same as being 100% ok with it. | |
| Dec 24, 2019 at 5:27 | comment | added | Von Huffman | @GreySage Monica agreed to what is being said here. She copy pasted all of it on her fundraiser and cancelled it. Both parties are 100% ok with what is being said, monica even signed an NDA. There's no longer a conflict between them. | |
| Dec 23, 2019 at 21:01 | comment | added | ChatterOne | I think there is honestly nothing to applaud here. Well, maybe (hopefully) the amount of money they had to pay, but I wouldn't count too much on it. They said "she didn't understand our rules, and since it was an honest mistake we might think about reinstating her". Pretty sure that what happened is that the lawyers said "Everything is fine, except for that going public thing. Apologize for that and you'll be ok. Here, sign this". | |
| Dec 23, 2019 at 18:54 | history | edited | Robert Columbia | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 23, 2019 at 18:50 | comment | added | Robert Columbia | @Grey honestly, I thought it did admit responsibility, at least in a moral sense. It does have a lot of legalese (which I don't appreciate), but it is more than a "something went wrong" post. | |
| Dec 23, 2019 at 18:47 | history | edited | Robert Columbia | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 23, 2019 at 18:40 | comment | added | GreySage | Technically SO didn't admit responsibility, just that there were "mistakes that led us here". They never said they made the mistakes, and the post seems to throw all the blame on Monica for not understanding the new CoC. | |
| Dec 23, 2019 at 17:46 | history | edited | Robert Columbia | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 23, 2019 at 17:39 | history | answered | Robert Columbia | CC BY-SA 4.0 |