Talk:Chud the Builder

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This current article feels poorly organized to an extreme degree and overly detailed in some areas, while being underdeveloped in others. Several sections read more like a chronological collection of incidents and online reactions rather than an encyclopedia article. The fact that my revisions got reverted is also very concerning. Ell22Moore (talk) 03:23, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. A major contributor to the article is consistently edit-warring and rolling back constructive edits, reverting to the previous cluttered style that is littered with grammatical, spelling, and punctuation errors. If he keeps up the disruptive editing, we may need to tag an administrator to deal with it. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 06:43, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah this feels like a fandom.com article or something lol. I don't have time this weekend to help out here myself but once the aggressive editor is contained I'd personally propose that the tone be overhauled to reflect Wikipedia standards. A lot of the text is very editorialized and sensational, half of the citations are X posts, etc. It might also make sense to greatly reduce the entire "Career" section to just dryly describe his streaming career and to move a lot of that text into a dedicated "Racism" section or something. Curious to see what other people think. SLAVETOLOVE (talk) 14:07, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I just overhauled it and rewrote several sections to fit the encyclopedic tone. I hope the disruptive editor doesn't revert the changes, he's already reverted 2 of my edits (that included significant spelling fixes, grammar, etc) because he said that the article should not have sections because it looked bad aesthetically. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 19:48, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There's also so many primary sources being used that it almost comes off as WP:PROMO ThePoggingEditor (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose I couldn't leave well enough alone - I've done the following:

- Reworked some sentences for clarity or conciseness

- Removed some excessive details (particularly references to $CHUD; it's not only excessive, but I feel uncomfortable with this article advertising the badass gains on a neo-Nazi's rug pull coin while events are still occurring?)

I also personally think that a lot of the Career section should just be removed. We don't need an itemized list of every repulsive thing he's ever said or else we'd might as well just duplicate his entire X timeline here. If here were a notable public figure (think someone like James Watson) it might bear such microscopic focus. In exchange maybe we should just have a more uncompromising lede describing him as a violent, racist, far-right livestreamer?

I'm punching above my weight here - I don't have tons of Wikipedia experience and this is obviously a really difficult subject to write about in a democratic fashion. But something about the present direction of the article doesn't sit right with me, especially the plethora of primary sources (are we really going to just reproduce here his assertion that he's an innocent victim being victimized for no reason by evil leftists?). SLAVETOLOVE (talk) 03:33, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SLAVETOLOVE No worries, Wikipedia is a collaborative effort so no article has to be entirely on you ThePoggingEditor (talk) 04:45, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it seems that one of the editors making significant changes to the article may potentially be a fan, going into extreme detail extrapolating a lot of potentially irrelevant details from X/Twitter posts, almost glorifying some of it. He also made a DYK nomination that seems promotional, including promoting a memecoin, the second suggestion relies on an unverified claim by the subject, and the third one extrapolates an uncensored slur from a source that censors the slur. In any case, I went ahead and removed any non-relevant and potentially contentious statements that were cited with only primary sources, and replaced a few of his tweet sources with reliable sources. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 06:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it seems that one of the editors making significant changes to the article may potentially be a fan

Why would I be a fan of a complete dumbass?

WP:ASPERSIONS aside, almost all text referenced to primary sources clarified that these were claims by Chuddy boy, and it seems apparent by the above that some of the proposed changes here are far more motivated by an attempt to WP:RGWs than real encyclopedic criteria. — Knightoftheswords 17:03, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Surely exhaustively repeating every bad thing he's ever said is a greater violation of WP:RGW than any of the proposed changes? SLAVETOLOVE (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree, There have been lots of changes for the past 24 hours and does not look very objective. Nbbutf789y (talk) 14:55, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Attempts to remove mass, wholescale removals of content, which have been reverted not just by me, but also others such as TonySt (talk · contribs) under the guise of grammatical, spelling, and punctuation for what often appear to be largely (I'd say bad) aesthetic preferences, while spending hours attempting to edit war in spite of calls to take discussion here is not what I think would be a slam dunk WP:ANI case. In any case, I still had to rewrite parts of the article to provide better structure and clarity. Also, despite being a known feature of many Wikipedia articles, controversy sections (which would be what a racism section in this article would essentially be) are generally discouraged, see WP:CSECTION. — Knightoftheswords 17:54, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, no offense, but I highly recommend that you spend extra time ensuring your edits are not cluttered, grammatically correct, and free from spelling errors. The edits you have been making are causing the article to be extremely cluttered and hard to read. While obviously in good faith, your contribution to this article has led to a lot of issues that should not be present in the text of an encyclopedic article. Please take extra time to ensure your contributions actually help build an encyclopedic article. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 19:15, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like the organizational issues are that the article is not written in WP:PROSELINE? If organizing an article into proper paragraphs is your issue than you're going to have an issue since this isn't a timeline page. — Knightoftheswords 02:00, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-review MOS:LAY especially MOS:PARA. So far the consensus on this talk page is that your edits have greatly cluttered and made the article feel unprofessional, written more like a hyper-sensationalized tabloid article. I'm going to kindly ask you to please triple-check if a contribution will be a positive contribution that helps bring the article to an encyclopedic standard, and to stop attempting to start an edit war by reverting our changes. We've worked around your changes, never reverting, but simply improving and properly formatting them, but if it gets any more disruptive, we believe the correct course of action is to bring an admin in to arbitrate for us. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 06:02, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Attempts to organize the article into more sections have been reverted by not just me, but two other users, since again, it violates WP:PROSELINE; articles should be structured as actual articles that can be read instead of just being a loose, timelineesque collection of events. I find the repeated claims that these changes are to make the article more encyclopedic comical given that. I'd advise you to please do an overview of how Wikipedia articles are structured, including the sections you linked which explicitly declare:

Sections usually consist of paragraphs of running prose, each dealing with a particular point or idea. Single-sentence paragraphs can inhibit the flow of the text.

— Knightoftheswords 16:53, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Each point/idea should have its own paragraph, not 2-3 separate idea paragraphs all bunched together. Also, why revert changes? There have been multiple times you revert and it causes many constructive and objectively better changes to get lost. Instead you can change some words around. Also, why are you so adamant at promoting his memecoin when it adds no value to the article? -- HungryHighway🛣️ 17:51, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Added quotation marks and a Bulwark citation to the road rage paragraph. I retained the specific slur rather than sanitizing it because the subject's use of racial slurs is central to his notoriety and the events described in this article. Accurate reporting of a figure known specifically for this language requires preserving the actual words used. Added quotation marks to clarify it is a reported allegation, not editorial voice. Chookachooka (talk) 18:02, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If the sources use the actual slur or shows the primary source using the slur, I think that usage of the slur in the Wikipedia article probably passes WP:PROFANE. Considering the reputation the subject has built for himself, I think usage of offensive slurs in the article is unavoidable. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

While not incorrect I'm of the opinion that the term takes away from the seriousness of the events. I think it should be removed as simply describing his actions as harassment seems more apt. ~2026-29577-58 (talk) 07:27, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How about "producing content with the intention of eliciting outrage for views (commonly referred to as "rage-baiting") ThePoggingEditor (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@ArtemisiaGentileschiFan, per WP:BLPSELFPUB, self-published sources from the subject are allowed under certain circumstances; while some of the prior material in the section may not pass that threshold, I don't think that really warrants the excursion of all of them, especially when it's mostly just stuff about his upbringing. — Knightoftheswords 16:26, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Following the unsuccessful appeal of his ban, he moved to the livestreaming platform Pump, where creators are assigned meme coins linked to their channels", "Pump" should be changed to either "Pump.fun", or "pump.fun". Casint (talk) 04:53, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Pump.fun is commonly referred to simply as Pump, ala youtube.com and youtube. — Knightoftheswords 18:29, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Chud’s educational background is unclear. ~2026-29970-62 (talk) 18:28, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Nexusdude (talk) 23:56, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The licensing information for this file on Commons also seems to be incorrect, as you've described the mugshot as your own work. Day Creature (talk) 03:08, 20 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

can someone add a mugshot image of Dalton to the page ~2026-30403-38 (talk) 07:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

TN's mugshots are probably copyrighted by the law enforcement agencies. If he were arrested in California or Florida, the mugshot would be uploaded here as they are PD (public domain). Battlesnake1 (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of the day, this dude is a white nationalist and should be referred to one. “Chudthebuilder is a white nationalist IRL Streamer, known for his content that heavily focuses on rage baiting other races with racial slurs and remarks” would be really cool to add. People need to learn from their actions. Don’t sugar coat it. Call him what he is. A racist coward. Groovenic (talk) 12:23, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is aimed at keeping content in a neutral encyclopedic tone. The intro is well structured from available reliable sources. There's not any coverage about his political views yet, and if most RSes describe him as such, it will likely be added, but for now it's not supported in available sources. Read WP:NPOV for more details. -- HungryHighway🛣️ 13:34, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montgomery County courthouse shooting

 – FaviFake (talk) 15:05, 27 May 2026 (UTC)