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lilypond in a wiki

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This articles features about "WikiTeX, a MediaWiki interface, supports editing LilyPond notation directly in wiki articles", but do you know LilySnap ? it's a plugin for the snipsnap wiki/blog engine, that allows integration of lilypond. Here it is : http://lilysnap.blogdns.net/space/LilySnap

GUI's

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You note three free GUI programs that can export sheet music to LilyPond format; however, they are for Linux only. Should the fact be noted that no such programs exist for Windows or even for the Macintosh?  Denelson83  06:39, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of the three, Denemo will work with Macintosh OS X and, indeed, like LilyPond comes with Fink. However, its state of development at present does not leave something to be desired, but instead is absolutely rotten- Not Ready For Prime Time. Unless much has been improved with 0.7.1-11, the .ly files it produces don't contain a version number, crashes are regular experiences... better to just learn how to use LilyPond or for someone to write a proper GUI and adapt it for XDarwin, this still needs to be done after all. Schissel-nonLop! 03:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The free software community is sometimes hostile towards commercial operationg systems, but many programs are offered in a Windows or Macintosh version. I'm one of those with friends in both camps: sort of like Bilbo between the dwarves and the elves. --Uncle Ed 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frescobaldi doesn't export lilypond format, it's just a graphical front end to lilypond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.59.48.118 (talk) 15:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. I've updated the page. Feel free to make these edits yourself! Pnorcks (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It seems LilyPond's documentation now recommends Frescobaldi for MacOS use, with no mention of LilyPad. &&Hugopoon&& (talk) 08:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lilypond as a markup language

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Isn't Lilypond a kind of markup language? If yes, can someone incorporate this information into the article? --kupirijo (talk) 08:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The definition of a markup language is somewhat vague. LilyPond input files are text files in the sense that they are not in a binary format and can be viewed and changed using any text editor. However, IMHO, it would seem farfetched to me to view them as "annotated documents". (Then again, I for one would not see e.g. an SVG file as a document written in a markup language, even if the format used is based on XML and is therefore – if only by name – an instance of a markup language.) Anyway, I would not view the language defined by LilyPond to describe musical scores as a markup language. – Tea2min (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The definitions are fuzzy, but my own point of view is that markup languages show *the finished product more or less*, with added features in code. To me, a "true" markup language for music would have to be written directly in musical notation. I don't consider note letter names to be the finished product more or less. However, any of the things I've just said may be completely wrong, so don't rely on them. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WYSIWYG-ish applications such as NoteWorthy Composer "show the finished product more or less" but I doubt anyone would call that a markup language.
As the ad hoc librarian of a dance orchestra I have used lilypond to prepare and maintain the group's book. In that use, it behaves more like a compiler than a markup language, in that it accepts modules written in a specialized source language and puts out graphic files such as PDF, far better than the lossy photocopies previously used. Wikipedia now uses lilypond to put bits of music notation into article space, which is more like what a markup language does.
How would you suggest it be handled in this article? Just plain Bill (talk) 19:37, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I should have specified more carefully that it seems to me that "the raw code of a file in a markup language" is what should show the finished product more or less - in other words I think a markup language for music isn't currently feasible, but lilypond is not as far from it as WYSIWYG-ish applications are. I don't think it's really necessary or helpful for this article to discuss markup languages. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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