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Bow before the laser screwdriver
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How many spaces after a colon?
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Fear the Death Ray
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one.
unless you mean a real colon, then it'll be the length of the rec... (oh, is it bad that I say the word?)
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That cheeky buggerer
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/me tiptoes out of the thread after seeing the colonoscopic direction that the thread immediately took...
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Back in the typewriter day, when fading ink ribbons could result in commas being mistaken for periods and vice versa, typists were taught to insert 2 spaces after the period to differentiate between the two. Ditto with colons and semicolons, 2 spaces after a colon, 1 space after a semicolon.
These days, with word processors and laser printers and whatnot, I dunno if it makes a difference. So the answer is probably, use one space or two, doesn't matter, as long as you keep it consistent. -Derek
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Know what you write...
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dpaterso already explained where the whole idea of 2 spaces came from. Gee, I feel old. I had a typewriter when I was younger. Anyway, don't make things more complicated then they need to be. Now that we have computers you only need one space no matter what the punctuation mark is.
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Bow before the laser screwdriver
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Domo.
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What? I have a title?
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I put one space after everything. That allows me to do a find and replace on two spaces for one, keeping everything consistent. If someone's house style is different, they can change it themselves.
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practical experience, FTW
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Two.
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One.
I had never, ever heard of this 'two spaces' thing before joining AW and I learned to type on a typewriter. A split-level finger-mangler too, none of your electric gubbins. |
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Quite.
But even after mixing with other writers in real life (not for me, hence my appearance online) I never heard any of them mention this formatting 'rule'. And I'm speaking as someone who knows Pitman's. |
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Clever User Title
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My idiot, living-in-the-Dark-Ages high school keyboarding teacher taught us all that crap, and now I can't stop myself from putting two spaces after periods, question marks, and exclamation marks. I have to use Find and Replace to fix it. Grrr...
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Living the dream
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When I first learned to type I used two, but I've since managed to retrain the brain (and fingers) to use only one. Some software applications will allow only one space after any punctuation. I loves those applications.
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Fear the Death Ray
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I learned to type on a typewriter (yes, I'm 65 years old!!!!) and I only learned to put two spaces after a period, not semicolon or colon -- there was only one space.
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Bow before the laser screwdriver
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I learned to type on a computer and I learned two spaces instead of one. It often depends on the manuscript style as well. AP is actually one after a period, whereas uh...that other one I used to use in school I can't remember the name of was two. Annoying. I do two after periods because that's how I was taught and it looks weird to me otherwise.
Oddly, my thinking was more that the answer had to do with what came after the colon than anything else. Namely, if it was a complete sentence it would be two spaces and if not it would be one. I clearly had no idea what I was talking about. However, this has cleared up the answer quite well--either one is fine!
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I stop at railroad crossings
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I only put one space after any punctuation. I've been using typewriters (and then computers) since I was ten years old (1960).
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Assume Whackadoodle
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It's a single space after a colon, period, question mark, or exclamation point.
It's only important in that it helps you look like a professional. That said, if a publisher or editor asks you to use three spaces, and Comic Sans 19 point in flamingo pink, then by golly, you do it with a smile and be ready to grab the check.
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The grad students did it
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Agree with Lisa. If the writing between and around the punctuation marks is interesting and publishable, I doubt an agent or editor will give a rat's arse about being colonic over spacing.
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I can't believe we can find this many people to comment on a space. Imagine what would happen if we had something of substance to discuss.
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Fear the Death Ray
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The problem is when the writer is inconsistent. A space here and two spaces there. It makes the typesetter's job very difficult to conform to house style. The "search and replace" function doesn't always work so well.
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Fear the Death Ray
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(BTW, most online publishing uses single space because that's actually what HTML does. To insert double space you actually have to insert two &bsnp's into the document. By default, all white spaces turn into single space after being rendered by the browser. Read every single post on AW and you will find only single space after period, no matter what you do).
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I didn't want to work. It was as simple as that. I distrusted work, disliked it. I thought it was a very bad thing that the human race had unfortunately invented for itself. -- Agatha Christie ![]() ![]() The Pacific Between � A Bunch of Stories (2006 IPPY Award) WIP: Beyond the Banyan Tree - draft 9, 125,000 words Home Page | Blog | Reviews Last edited by maestrowork; 11-20-2009 at 03:11 AM. |
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Yup. A number of publishers specify one space only.
Guess they're not professionals then. |
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Why is a raven like a writing desk?
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I've trained myself both ways. I had a desk editor at the paper that would always bitch at me and another guy who'd learned to double-space after periods. It was just the way we were used to, but AP or perhaps it was a house thing required single spaces. So I did that at the paper, but continue to this day to use double spaces in my fiction. It hasn't affected my acceptances yet (that I know of) and I've never seen a preference listed on submission guidelines. But if I did see it I'd adhere to it like anyone else who hopes to have a chance at publishing. It all seems a little silly to me.
I use single spaces on the forum also for some reason. Hmm. Maybe I just have a different brain for fiction. But then there's the fact I use single spaces after colons and doubles after other hard punctuation. I'm consistent but that's how I've always done it. If it's either one way or the other perhaps I should relearn the way I space. I just never thought of a colon as "hard" punctuation. Or perhaps I'll just write the way I always have and deal with the trivial shit when it's time to deal with it. |
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